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Subject:    Re: Review Request: use _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN to check if the window is minimized instead of WM_STATE
From:       Thomas_Lübking <thomas.luebking () gmail ! com>
Date:       2013-01-10 0:15:32
Message-ID: 20130110001532.8672.96264 () vidsolbach ! de
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There should be no problem with ths one since WMs are encouraged ("should", *sigh*) \
to set _NET_WM_HIDDEN for minimized windows and the major ones do. If _NET_WM_STATE \
is absent it's considered 0, thus does not match HIDDEN, thus passes the check over \
to the ICCCM state.

The "weird" condition is when a window has HIDDEN but not inconified, just that this \
is what the patch uses a fix. No apparent concerns from my side.

- Thomas Lübking


On Jan. 10, 2013, 12:12 a.m., Yichao Yu wrote:
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> (Updated Jan. 10, 2013, 12:12 a.m.)
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> Review request for kdelibs, kwin, Aaron J. Seigo, and Martin Gräßlin.
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> Description
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> When setting "Keep window thumbnails" to "Always (Breaks minimization)", kwin will \
> keep WM_STATE to be NORMAL when a client is minimized while including \
> _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN in its _NET_WM_STATE, as confirmed by ICCCM[1] and Extended \
> Window Manager Hints[2]. However, apart from the expected result (breaks \
> minimization: the client will continue to refresh its content) the minimized window \
> is not shown as minimized in icontasks and pager. 
> These two plasma addons (and probably other addons as well) uses \
> KWindowInfo::isMinimized to determine whether the window is minimized. However, \
> this function threat all window that are not Iconic (WM_STATE != ICONIC) as not \
> minimized, in contradiction to the "Extended window manager hints" which says, \
> "Pagers and similar applications should use _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN instead of \
> WM_STATE to decide whether to display a window in miniature representations of the \
> windows on a desktop." 
> This patch correct this behavior and therefore correct the behavior of both pager \
> and icontasks in this situation. 
> [1] http://tronche.com/gui/x/icccm/sec-4.html#s-4.1.3.1
> [2] http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.html#id2731936
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> Diffs
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> kdeui/windowmanagement/kwindowinfo_x11.cpp d983c9a 
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> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108308/diff/
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> Testing
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> Compiled, pager and icontasks shows minimized windows correctly.
> Also tested on openbox (+plasma's pager) by "Xuetian Weng".
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> Thanks,
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> Yichao Yu
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There should be no problem with ths one since WMs are encouraged (&quot;should&quot;, \
*sigh*) to set _NET_WM_HIDDEN for minimized windows and the major ones do. If \
_NET_WM_STATE is absent it&#39;s considered 0, thus does not match HIDDEN, thus \
passes the check over to the ICCCM state.

The &quot;weird&quot; condition is when a window has HIDDEN but not inconified, just \
that this is what the patch uses a fix. No apparent concerns from my side.</pre>
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<p>- Thomas</p>


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<p>On January 10th, 2013, 12:12 a.m., Yichao Yu wrote:</p>






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<div>Review request for kdelibs, kwin, Aaron J. Seigo, and Martin Gräßlin.</div>
<div>By Yichao Yu.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Jan. 10, 2013, 12:12 a.m.</i></p>






<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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break-word;">When setting &quot;Keep window thumbnails&quot; to &quot;Always (Breaks \
minimization)&quot;, kwin will keep WM_STATE to be NORMAL when a client is minimized \
while including _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN in its _NET_WM_STATE, as confirmed by ICCCM[1] \
and Extended Window Manager Hints[2]. However, apart from the expected result (breaks \
minimization: the client will continue to refresh its content) the minimized window \
is not shown as minimized in icontasks and pager.

These two plasma addons (and probably other addons as well) uses \
KWindowInfo::isMinimized to determine whether the window is minimized. However, this \
function threat all window that are not Iconic (WM_STATE != ICONIC) as not minimized, \
in contradiction to the &quot;Extended window manager hints&quot; which says, \
&quot;Pagers and similar applications should use _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN instead of \
WM_STATE to decide whether to display a window in miniature representations of the \
windows on a desktop.&quot;

This patch correct this behavior and therefore correct the behavior of both pager and \
icontasks in this situation.

[1] http://tronche.com/gui/x/icccm/sec-4.html#s-4.1.3.1
[2] http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.html#id2731936
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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break-word;">Compiled, pager and icontasks shows minimized windows correctly. Also \
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>kdeui/windowmanagement/kwindowinfo_x11.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(d983c9a)</span></li>

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<p><a href="http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108308/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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